Atheist Defense
There is a level of naiveté with which many, if not most, Christians approach the subject of atheism and its recipients. The assumption for most of us is to believe that atheists have simply made a conscious and uneducated decision to stop believing that there is any form of deity by which the world was created and/or is continued.
The following information comes from, Christianity Before Christ, a vastly respected book written by John G. Jackson.
It would probably surprise many of us that atheism is a very well thought out philosophy, complete with documentation, historical facts, and highly thought out and researched arguments. Among such documentation is the ancient tablet from Babylon that is kept in the British Museum. This tablet dates back to about 2000 B.C. and is a reference to a passion play that was acted out in ancient Babylon in reference to the god Bel, known as Baal by the Hebrews.
The scenes go as follows:
Act 1: Bel is arrested by soldiers and imprisoned.
Act 2: Bel is tried in the Hall of Justice. (Bel is found innocent, but sentenced to death.)
Act 3: Bel is smitten. (Bel is abused and jeered at by a mob.)
Act 4: Bel is led away to the Mount. (The actor playing Bel is taken to a hilltop where there is a sacred grove.)
Act 5: Two criminals are taken with Bel and one is released. (All of the people in the amphitheater have left and follow the actors to the hilltop for the death scene where the guilty are crucified, hung on a tree, or slain on an altar.)
Act 6: After Bel has gone to the mount the city breaks out into turmoil.
Act 7: Bel’s clothes are carried away. (The corpse of Bel is stripped of its clothing and the body is prepared for burial.)
Act 8: Bel goes down into the Mount and disappears from life. (There is a tomb next to the stage where the body of Bel is placed.)
Act 9: weeping women seek Bel at the Tomb. (Women are the first to see Bel after his death.)
Act 10: Bel is brought back to life. (A stone that sealed the tomb of Bel is rolled away in the final scene. As Bel comes out of the tomb, the audience stands and cheers in a great frenzy until all of their voices are hoarse. The great god Bel has reappeared to prove that death has been conquered and that all life is secure in the hereafter.)
Atheists argue that the Christian story is merely a Greek version of this play carried on among the beliefs of those who call themselves followers of Jesus.
When atheists confess their belief that there is no God, they come educated and prepared. They are not seeking to be convinced of a higher power, but of a proof that our belief is not simply an updated play.
How have we prepared to defend our faith? Or do we argue, “You just have to believe?” I have no problem with that defense. However, how many atheists will take that advice based on what they consider the ancient proofs of Christianity before Christ?
11 comments:
Yes, most Athiests that I have talked to or have heard talk are very intelligent, well read, logical people. They kind of need something more than "I just have faith" to convince them (especially when so many "Christians" act so contradictory to what Christianity is all about)... maybe some people can't really be convinced... they will have to actually experience God in their own lives and realize such an experience can only be God in order to believe in such a thing...
Walker said:
>>How have we prepared to defend our faith?
FWIW: For me, the repeated themes and morals and basic principles of the 'major' religions, all originating in very different places and often apart from each other are "proof" (or at least powerful evidence) of the existence of a deity.
The Christian God is the one that speaks to me within my culture and background, and the one in which I believe.
God's ways and nature, however, are so far beyond human understanding I'm not going to insist that anyone share my particular belief.
Namaste
Stephanie and Walker,
Thank you for your very mature and educated comments.
Experiencing God for one's self is important. And the power of God to reveal himself in so many different parts of the world is quite convincing.
Grace and peace,
Johnny
I agree with Stephanie...maybe some people can't really be convinced until they experience God in their own lives...
My family and I are in the midst of a very difficult time. As a believer I can very plainly see God's hand over us and the miracles he has performed to keep us safe, to fulfill his purpose but I can't expect someone who doesn't know Jesus to automatically see God in the good things or ask for his help through the bad.
We should 100% be prepared to speak our faith with intellegence and boldness, but in the end our greatest tool to lead people to Christ is through our actions and how we live our lives.
You are very educated and well versed in the things you believe but I've learned much more through your gentle spirit, your caring friendship and your godly parenting than anything else.
Rob Bell had a great sermon this week that revolved around the question, "When will we tell THEM about Jesus?" As he reflected, he realized the answer is, "We already are teaching people about Jesus." Whatever we do or say we are saying Jesus cares about this or that. Now, we may not be teaching accurately, but nonetheless we're teaching people lessons about Jesus . . . either good or bad.
I can't defend my faith. By definition it's something unproven by these standards.
Neither athiests, agnostics, satanists, or evangelical christians alike can argue against love that flows from Christ to man through people that don't care to stop and judge based on who you are or what you've done. You simply "are" and therefore you're made in the image of Christ and I love you.
I don't even like to use the word argue in the paragraph above. That is so not the point.
Thanks for a great post.
Grace,
Des
Kathy,
You are the sweetest! I was telling someone the other day how important you always make me feel. I will always remember hearing you at camp saying to someone who said there was an officer here whose name is Johnny, and you were saying, "Johnny! Johnny Gainey!" I felt like a trillion dollars. Thanks for the memory.
Des,
I appreciation your words about love being the greatest sign of a Christian (my paraphrase). You are right! How can anyone deny that.
Johnny
Des, are you near Grand Rapids? Or are Rob Bell's sermons on line?
Namaste
Walker
Hey Walker,
I'm not Des, but I can answer you.
Rob Bell's sermons are on line. Go to iTunes, then click on "iTunes Store," click on "podcasts" on the left side of the screen, then go to the top right hand corner of the screen and type in Mars Hill Bible Church.
It's a free podcast, just like mine.
Grace,
Johnny
"Belief cannot argue with unbelief, it can only preach to it." -Karl Barth
Walker said:
>>"Belief cannot argue with unbelief, it can only preach to it." -Karl Barth
FWIW, my experience is that preaching to unbelievers just turns them away.
But, then again, it is entirely possible that my experience here simply reflects my style of preaching....
I think I prefer Fracis of Asissi (I think) - paraphrase: talk Christianity only if necessary....
Namaste
Walker,
I agree with you. "Preaching has received a bum rap from the fundamental imperative preachers who point fingers and portray personal perfection.
Teaching is a better way to go.
Grace and peace,
Johnny
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